Who benefits from circumcision of the Bible

Valentin Kovalsky
01.10.2015

Who benefits from circumcision of the Bible?

If a modern person chooses to turn to God and become a Christian, then the question immediately arises: which Bible should be used? Is it necessary to categorically deny non-canonical books that are not included in the so-called "Jewish canon"?

Temptation by scripture

When the devil tried to tempt Christ in the desert, he used Sacred Scripture for the sake of “persuasiveness”: he offered the Son of God to throw himself from the wing of the temple, pervertedly quoting a passage from psalm 90 (Matthew 4: 6).

Earthly followers of the “father of lies” are engaged in similar satanic tricks: in words they call themselves Christians, but in fact they are trying to “drive” the Bible into the framework of their (invented) trends, heresies and sects. Each of them has their own faith and their own delusions.

Temptation of Christ in the wildernessA typical case of life: on the street (or in the subway), a smiling stranger comes to you and kindly offers to “get to know” God. At the same time, he, as a rule, quotes biblical passages.

Unfortunately, many believers (including the Orthodox) do not always understand that the newly made "catcher of souls" is trying to impose not only his interpretation,but also “their own” Holy Scripture: from the text of the Old Testament, the Protestants threw out non-canonical books, mistakenly believing them to be “apocryphal” (that is, secret, and therefore doubtful). Although, as you know, the Apocrypha has never been part of the Holy Scriptures.

One of the testimonies of the Protestant approach is the activity of the so-called “Trinitarian Biblical Society” (actively supplying us with “its” bibles): there are only 39 books in “its” Old Testament list, that is, 11 less than the Orthodox.

What is the reason? Strangely enough, in this matter many people trust not the Church of Christ, but ... those who reject Him as God! Yes, yes, Baptists, Pentecostals, charismatics, Adventists (and other biblical "experts") rely on Judaism, i.e., 24 Jewish books (which later were "decomposed" into the mentioned 39 Old Testament books). As a result, we have two bibles - two ways ...

Between the Septuagint and the Tanach

Orthodox (patristic) heritage is based on the Septuagint - the translation of 70 wise men (interpreters). It is about the Holy Scripture, formed and translated from Hebrew to Greek for the JewsAlexandria, who lived before Christ.

Tanah and New Testament

  • The Tanach does not contain a New Testament - 27 Christian holy books not recognized by Judaism.
  • The Tanakh contains 22 books (39 books in the Christian Bible), and the Orthodox Old Testament contains 50 books.
  • 11 bible bookswritten in Greek in the IV-I centuries. before Christ, the Jewish rabbis do not recognize.

In the Septuagint there are significant differences from the position of the later Judean (Masoretic) scribes, who in the period from the 7th to the 11th century after Christ were engaged in the ordering of the Tanach, a list of 24 Jewish books. That is, they corrected and, in fact, canonized, created their list after the final break of Judaism with Christianity!

In the Greek version (unlike the Jewish) there are additional sections. Thus, in the book of Esther there is an addition to the 10th chapter, and in the book of Daniel there are additional 13th and 14th chapters. In addition, the Greek version also traditionally includes lists that are not recognized by the Jewish rabbis at all: two books of Ezra (second and third), Tobit, Judithi, the Wisdom of Jesus, son of Sirach, Wisdom of Solomon, the book of the Prophet Baruch, the Epistle of Jeremiah, and three Maccabees' books.

Thus, in the Orthodox Bible there are 77 books (of which 50 are from the Old Testament), and in the Protestant one there are 66.However, the main problem lies not so much in different versions of the Old Testament list, as in an attempt by non-Orthodox to distort the history of the formation of Holy Scripture, using their heretical views that are completely different from the patristic teaching (and sometimes even from common sense).

Where did the “canon of Ezra” come from?

The word “canon” itself is not Jewish (Jewish), but Greek: it means a set of norms and rules. However, despite this, the Protestants came up with the myth of the so-called "Ezra's canon": according to their version, the Jews seemed to have fully formed their canon, allegedly during the time of the high priest Ezra (V-VI centuries BC) when they returned from the Babylonian captivity and reproduced their statehood on the basis of the law of the Torah. And, of course, such an unreasonable thought raises more questions than answers.

First, Ezra lived much earlier than the lists of Old Testament (canonical) books mentioned in church history were recorded. In addition, the Orthodox have the Septuagint, which appeared much later.

Therefore, if you believe in the “canon of Ezra” (supposedly consisting of only 24 Jewish books), then it is not clear: why did other Hebrew texts, which were used in the translation into Greek, be added to this “canon”?

Secondly, it was the Septuagint, quotations from which are found in the New Testament, played an important role in church history: it became a peculiar biblical canon, since it was used for translations into other languages ​​(for example, into Church Slavonic).

Ezra explains God's law

Talmudic Recognition

The Alexandrian Jews (who used the Greek version of the Scripture) did not consider that the prophecy in Israel was exhausted after Ezra. The very existence of the Septuagint shows that the processes of Jewish "canonization", more precisely the reduction of the number of holy books, in Palestine began much later than the time when the biblical texts were translated into Greek.

Thus, during the existence of the second Temple, the Jews used more books than after its destruction in Rabbinic Judaism. The Orthodox theologian Alexey Somov also paid attention to this moment - the author of the report “The Canon of the Books of the Old Testament: history, problems and prospects of research” (St. Philaret Orthodox Christian Christian Institute).

According to his research, "a clear reference to the canon of 24 books, divided into three sections, as well as a list of these books,Appears in the mind (teaching) to the treatise of the Babylonian Talmud Bava Batra 14b-15a at the end of the 2nd century. n er. " Note: the second century of our era - a time when Judaism and Christianity were already going different ways.

Babylonian TalmudIt should be noted that the Babylonian Talmud mentioned was compiled in the 6th century AD er (a century later the Jerusalem Talmud). Therefore, it is not clear: on what basis are the Protestant masters unfoundedly claiming that the Jewish “canon” was supposedly known during the times of the earthly life of Jesus Christ? Surely they are not afraid to sin against the New Testament history?

Of course, Christ used such expressions as “the writings,” “the law,” and “the prophets.” But! What kind of books did he mean? This New Testament does not say. Also, the Apostle Paul does not name specific books when he says that "all Scripture is inspired by God." And in the congregational epistle of the Apostle Jude, we even see references to apocrypha (about the prophecy of Enoch, disputes between Satan and the Archangel Michael about the body of Moses). If at that time the Old Testament canon had already been formed, would the disciples of Christ be silent about this?

Both the early Christian writers, the decisions of the Ecumenical Councils, and the ancient scrolls in Qumran testify to the absence of the “canon of Ezra” (where not only biblical texts were found,but also a huge amount of other religious literature).

"Spirit breathes where it wants"

By offering us a “circumcised” Bible, many non-Orthodox do not even suspect that they are following the heresy of the Sadducees, who denied the afterlife, and consequently - the prayers for the dead (cited in the non-canonical Maccabean book).

As a result, the Protestants turned out to be a rather strange approach to a different world: as soon as a member of the community dies, they are automatically deleted from the general list and no longer pray for him. Is it Christian? Did the Lord teach us this? He himself said: “But God is not [God] of the dead, but the living, for with Him all are alive” (Luke, 20, 38).

Getting the Holy GhostNobody objects that the will of God is reflected in the canon of Scripture. But how to relate to those early Christian times, when the canon itself was not yet? Did the early Church not have a full-fledged teaching for the simple reason that she did not know about the so-called Jewish canon?

It seems that foreign “soul hunters” are trying not only to distort the history of the Church, but also to infect us, the Orthodox, with the viruses of Protestantism, suffering from primitive rationalism.

Unlike heretics, Orthodoxy does not use biblical books to determine the degree of “inspiration”.After all, according to the Holy Scriptures, "The Spirit breathes where it wishes." And from the point of view of Protestantism, this breath is limited to compiling a “correct” list of books, and without the participation of the Church itself ...


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Valdis Pilgrims
2015-11-18 00:54:32
And the spirit of this world "breathes" on the world. That is what benefits this “circumcision” in the person of his earthly servants. Good academic article. I think she will soon come in handy to the Author in his scientific research.
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Orthodox
2015-11-02 20:25:34
sorry for the Protestants - sectarians cite the Bible and distort it ...
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Zahozhanin
2015-10-26 22:27:02
In addition to the "modernization of the Bible," the stories of Protestants and representatives of other denominations are interesting, for the first time they bring news of Christ to us.
And where is our 2000-thousand-year-old Christian history - only an uneducated person, or a descendant of Ham, who despises the faith of his fathers, can believe this. From the same series, their denial of their own Orthodox baptism, which was performed at the request of their own parents in infancy, contempt not only for their people, but also for their family.
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Comrade
2015-10-15 21:37:22
As one acquaintance Orthodox priest said, we do not know what we believe. This is really our task: to tell, explain all the depth and show the beauty of the Orthodox Faith - then let people choose knowing everything thoroughly and taking full responsibility for their choices. The Lord does not save by force.
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Andr
2015-10-14 14:19:35
The article gives thought to think .... There is something to think about .. Thank you Valentine.
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Valentine
2015-10-12 10:24:14
Alexey: Your logic is not clear: you write - "That" there is no God, "it is written in the Bible."
In fact, this phrase “there is no God” refers to the Psalter: “The madman said in his heart“ there is no God ”Ps. 13: 1). You left NOT IN TU STEPY, Alexey! After all, this article is about that in the formation of the books of the Holy Scriptures, the Protestants did not trust the Church of Christ, but those who deny Christ the Messiah - the Jewish rabbis!
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Alexey
2015-10-10 23:18:14
A lot of text, but not at all convincing. All are alive with God, the argument is not strong, it is also written, That “there is no God,” it is written in the Bible. I thought a really worthwhile article, nothing new, instead of praying for the deceased, it would be better to take care of the living. Such a power and authority which the Orthodox Church has is not all Protestants taken together and multiplied by ten. But the orthodox, but mostly (not all) hid behind the walls of their buildings and they are well, the people are walking, carrying money, and what’s up with the soul, the Lord knows, He will figure it out, but sorry ... Many, many could have done people..
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Valentine
2015-10-08 09:49:08
To Victor, who wrote heres from "2015-10-07 21:00:57":
Dear Victor! Before talking about heresy, you need to know: this word “heresy” (Greek αἵρεσις - “choice, direction, school, doctrine, sect”) means a conscious deviation from the generally accepted doctrine that suggests a different approach. We, the Orthodox from the first centuries - the observance of what the Church gave. Such as you, Victor - evasion of the Church. You have made a different choice (ie, heresy). As a result, you allegedly preach the Word of God verbally, in practice you are fond of verbiage and serve the very character who tempted Christ in the desert while hiding behind his “cut off” biblical quote taken out of the context of the 90th Psalm.
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Victor
2015-10-07 21:00:57
what did you want in your article to convey ??? the canons of the icon it.dpri Jesus of our Lord, there were no denominations at all, and the main purpose of the scriptures of saints is the priesthood of Jesus Christ and the salvation of people through Him and His sacrifice on the cross by faith !!! And the rest is giving the elders about the Lord himself speaking !!! and in Orthodoxy heresy is no less than in other denominations !!! and the lacking canon books can be read !!! The Lord commanded to investigate the scriptures !!! and God himself speaks of the inspiration of the word of God !!!
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Perehozhiy
2015-10-07 16:31:39
Stattya іміцівна і цікава.
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Vladimir
2015-10-07 16:28:27
(Rom.3: 21-26)
21 But now, regardless of the law, the righteousness of God was manifested, of which the law and the prophets testify.
22 God's righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ in all and on all believers, for there is no difference,
23 because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 Receiving justification by gift, by His grace, redemption in Christ Jesus.
25 whom God offered as a sacrifice of propitiation in His Blood through faith, to testify His righteousness in the forgiveness of the sins that were done before,
26 In the time of God's long-suffering, in testifying to His righteousness at the present time, may [he] appear righteous and justify one who believes in Jesus.
An article is a person's opinion.
The Lord desires salvation for all people. For salvation, He gave the Only Begotten Son - Jesus Christ, as proof of His love for people. Not God, but people divide themselves into the right and the lost, the faithful and the unfaithful, the disciples and the congregation, the "Saints" and sinners.
To turn to God and become a Christian you must:
1. Believe in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ;
2. To repent is to acknowledge one’s sinfulness and call upon Jesus to become the Lord and Savior of his life.
3. Go to church, pray, and study the Bible.
Then the Lord will reveal the Truth to you.
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Theodoret
2015-10-03 12:02:44
Good article
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Victor
2015-10-02 18:17:51
Interesting. And even very :)
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Victoria
2015-10-02 16:01:16
Valentine, a very interesting and informative article.
I hope many of my friends will be interesting.
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Victor D.
2015-10-02 14:50:38
In general, good work, like the story is fully and deeply disclosed, but the "teapot" is hard to grasp some specific terms that are in the article, I would add links, and in general a good article, there are several questions, for example, if there was one bible initially, then everything for what reason did it all happen that is, what is the reason for what is written in the article? What is the root cause? Why does the Tanach not contain a new covenant? What is the reason for the fact that Jewish rabbis do not recognize 11 biblical books written in Greek in the 4th-1st centuries. before Christ?
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Vitali
2015-10-02 14:26:54
Interesting and necessary information for me and my family! Thank you, we are waiting for new articles.
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Andr
2015-10-02 11:55:23
There is something to think about
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Nina
2015-10-02 10:36:31
“The kingdom of God is within you” (Lk.17: 21). If God is not in the soul, then no religion will help.
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Oleg
2015-10-01 23:17:52
Orthodox need to learn the Old Testament
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Kristina
2015-10-01 23:16:51
Thank you for the article
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Helena
2015-10-01 23:16:25
Very useful article
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Svetlana
2015-10-01 21:34:07
Valentin, thank you for the interpretation of this article, as I have long been interested in this topic.
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Lesya
2015-10-01 21:28:17
Protestant ideas not only contradict the Bible, as you have already mentioned, they are also not historically confirmed. Very good article, understandable and accessible to any reader. Thank you for the article, waiting for the next one!
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Irina
2015-10-01 20:11:28
I believe that this article is very relevant nowadays.
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Alexander
2015-10-01 19:39:55
Valentin, a good article. The protesters turned out to be more prepared for changes in our space, including materially. Thanks to them, many received the Bible and began to study it. The article will help to better understand and understand the history of Scripture.
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Svetlana
2015-10-01 19:19:44
People who come to the temple, as a rule, have little interest in the Old Testament, mainly paying attention to the new testament and when they encounter all sorts of sectarians just get lost and then, of course, it is very important to have this kind of explanation. Thanks to the author.
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Dmitriy
2015-10-01 18:55:05
The article is interesting, the topic is topical, the author is fluent in the material, and presents it clearly and fascinatingly.
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Igor
2015-10-01 18:50:25
I think the material is useful and quite rich, although it seems to me that the structure could be made clearer - a lot of information at first (and then the problem statement) dulls the abilityperception: especially, not prepared reader. And so - well.
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OUTRIGGER
2015-10-01 18:37:05
Yes, there is something to learn ...
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Lyudmila
2015-10-01 18:18:19
Very interesting article.

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